Episodes

E 21. BIG CANDY

Look, sugar is racist. And we’re going to cover all of that in an upcoming episode, but for this one, we just wanted to enjoy some candy—too bad Kelly bought pounds of the grossest assortment she could find. Circus Peantus, Bit-O-Honey, Caramel Chews—we ate them all. Was Darryl extremely upset? Yes. But did he quit? […]

Just Gravy 8: Magnet Schools

Just as we released our 3rd and final (for now) episode on school lunch, The Courier-Journal was just beginning to release their own investigative articles on the JCPS school system. Their series of deeply researched articles also comes with a new podcast produced by the newspaper. Knowing that we could not ignore the work of […]

19. School Lunch (Part 3)

Having too much to say in this episode, we actually broke it into two parts. In the first part of Part 3, Darryl and Kelly talk about the Supreme Court rulings that made school integration mandatory, and the redlining practices that lead to systematic segregation, and eventual busing. Because this subject matter is so vast, […]

E 18. School Lunch Part 2

In our second episode on School Lunch, we take a hard look at how the metaphor of a Melting Pot to describe the necessary assimilation of American immigrants, might be a little problematic. The school lunchroom is the place where newly immigrated children were (and still are) introduced to the “American diet”. Where classrooms taught […]

E 17. School Lunch Part 1

Welcome Back to School! (and our podcast) After a much needed break from research, writing, and talking about kind of bummer stuff, we are back and ready to do all these things again. We welcome all of our listeners back with a series about school lunch. Our series begins with Native American Boarding Schools which […]

E 16. Butter Pecan Plays Hot Ones

For your listening pleasure, Kelly and Darryl decided to take the challenge of playing the card game version of Hot Ones. If you haven’t seen the wildly popular show Hot Ones, do yourself a favor and find your favorite celebrity taking the challenge on the network First We Feast. Celebrities are interviewed as they taste […]

E 15. Red Hot Chili Chilies

If you take nothing else from this episode, please know that chilies are not peppers. When chilies were first discovered by European explores, they noted that they had a similar “heat” as the black pepper they were already using to season their food. Therefore, they also called chilies “peppers”. Could this be the oldest example […]

Just Gravy 7: Remembering the Comanche Three

While researching information for our Juneteenth episode, we came across this information about Booker T. Washington park on wikipedia: “…an estimated 30,000 black people celebrated at Booker T. Washington Park in Limestone County, Texas, established in 1898 for Juneteenth celebrations. Attendance at the Limestone County event fell off sharply in the wake of the 1981 […]

E. 14 Juneteenth: As American As BBQ Ribs

The pictures above came from the Library of Congress Public Archives, and if you have an afternoon (or week) to kill, we highly recommend you checking it out. There is a search bar to use when you have a key word, location, or event that you specifically want to find information about. In our case, […]

E 13. David McAtee’s BBQ

On June 1, 2020 David McAtee was shot and killed by the National Guard in the West End neighborhood of Louisville, Ky. Moments before his death, he can be seen on video checking his BBQ. Kelly and Darryl cover the McAtee’s life, the events leading to his death, and the aftermath a year later. We […]



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